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Capitol hill i understand he might be a smart and lovely guy and people might take to him. he has no experience in immigration policy or the politics thereof by the way, politics that have knotted up other politicians who have -- >> literally splintered the republican party. >> for the last decade a guy who own add newspaper and did some -- >> i don't disagree, but the one thing he does deserve credit for criminal justice reform, changing trump's mind. trump's idea of criminal justice, medieval, hanging the drug dealers lie the rafters lock them up literally, lock them up. >> right. >> so that...

Is about to find his sweet spot politically and this is going to be one for the ages. about ten moingz lainutes later started talking about the specifics, i said this is a speech by committee just like the rest. >> politically, i agree with you. i think it's a winner politically. i agree with howard on that. >> i think it will work politically. >> he's a positive guy. he has a good disposition. he's a likable guy. he's saying, look, we'll have to deal with this deficit and debt. we have no innovate and move forward, sort of that kennedy-esque thing. that's what the american people like to hear...