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Jeopardy? how much is he going to be a reliable witness at this point? but to michael's point it's an important point. i am also exhausted at the end of this day. i watched every word of it. i watched every word of the previous two days last week. it's not the senate trial, right? that's when you would have a prosecutor lay out a case in the way that you're suggesting adam schiff do. >> it's got to be obvious. this has to be obvious. how big is sondland tomorrow? >> huge. he's the biggest witness thus far. thus far we have had a number of spokes but no one axle. nobody who brings it all home t...

The implementation there is there was a quid pro quo. he lays out that he told the ukrainians that they weren't going to get the aid unless they investigated the bidens. that, in fact, is pr sh. that is, in fact, leaning on somebody, a shakedown or what you would call a quid pro quo. so you're talking about threading the needle by suggesting it wasn't the bidens. how else do you think that sondland could navigate this without ending up in legal jeopardy? i talked to jim baker a little while ago. baker told me he thought he was crazy, sondland was crazy to testify. he thinks there's too much ri...

Had made to both mr. yermak and the email i had sent to secretary pompeo and we were sort of ruminating about what was going on and senator johnson i believe said i'm going to call president trump, you know, and find out. then he obviously had that phone call. i wasn't involved in that phone call. >> okay. but you have no reason to disbelieve that wasn't the way it went down, right? >> no reason to disbelieve senator johnson. >> now you have had some time since your deposition and you submitted the addendum related to the warsaw get together with yermak as you sit here today are we missing a l...

They tell you a story, they need to worry about some day those documents are going to come out. >> and especially this witness. and i want to ask you about this. our viewers have been covering every twist and turn. i think we can get in the weeds a little bit. talk about gordon sondland's attorney. and talk about that line from congressman maloney where he says basically this is your third try. you submitted to a closed-door deposition. it was not your completely accurate testimony. you submitted a three and a half page addendum and you sit before us today with a totally different, a wholly di...

Other people said subsequent to his deposition, and that's what prompted the clarification in his addendum. perhaps he's going to remember more on wednesday as well. there's just so many events, so many meetings and phone calls and indeed text messages where he's a central figure. i'll just point to one which he mentioned in his declaration, which is the warsaw meeting on september 1st where he and mr. morrison and ambassador sondland all say that basically ambassador sondland told the ukrainian very high-ranking official, mr. yermak, that military assistance is conditioned on the announcement...