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Everything we've seen so far that it should be safe. but these things have to be evaluated thoroughly before a recommendation is made. >> look, i got to ask you one more question on boosters. a lot of folks that are hitting their six-month mark. a lot of good medical information and research out there that indicates six months is when the efficacy starts to wane in some of these. the w.h.o. is afraid that we're going to start doing boosters before some of the other world gets first doses. that's a tricky political situation. can you imagine the united states withholding booster shots because o...

Of sick people dying, okay. don't snark at me, governor. what will save lives, governor. it's not the vaccine. >> dr. murthy, i imagine you may have seen this. you heard governor hutchinson already. he has been trying to go around the state, arkansas. how do you digest something like that if the conservative republican governor of arkansas can't convince his constituents, how does the biden administration do it? >> well, chuck, first, i think we should be applauding governors like governor hutchinson and others who are out there trying to make sure their communities have the facts about covid ...

Days is that we just don't have enough beds. what we mean by that is people are starting to stack up in the e.r. and stack up outside of the hospital waiting for a bed and a couple patients who changed statuses today meaning that they went from a floor patient to icu patient and we had no icu bed to put them in. they remained on the floor with nursing care that is not appropriate for an icu patient but not having anybody else to be capable of taking care of that patient. it is a day by day and hour-by-hour struggle. we are admitting one covid patients every 45 minutes. that's hard to keep up w...