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Remember? adelson, the other casino guy. what is it about the gambling mecca that seems to attract the best thinking in the republican party these days? >> i don't know. >> it's crazy that it's happening. >> and all their bets right now are not very good. they seem to be betting on establishment candidates. i think the establishment is used to letting the base play and then imposing the candidate of their choosing. but who would know more about the average guy than a guy from a reality tv show? so trump sort of gets it more than they do. and i think the first of your scenarios is incidental. i...

Can win this darn thing. when is it? win the nomination? >> i think it's all those things, plus pressure not just from gop elites, but he hears it on the campaign trails, i'd love to support you, i don't think you support the republican party. he heard it from hugh hewitt earlier, he battered him over this issue. saying people like me are not going to support you until you take this step. and i think he feels like he's at 30-plus percent. now is the right time and move and maybe he'll push himself up into 40. maybe he can win the thing. >> isn't this a great world we live in? you live in a wor...

Pho from the koch brothers. puppets, question mark. >> he says, hey, i'm my own billionaire. i don't need billionaires to gro grovel in front of to support to win. of course, grovelling in front of billionaires has been the biggest change. we see adelson, the famous casino owner in las vegas, and the superpac filings that came out were fascinating, tamron, just given the small number of americans who are really bankrolling these superpacs sometimes with million-dollar checks or more. >> it's interesting, comments made by charles koch who in voe --

By being honest. >> hillary clinton says i voted for it and i'm against it. >> i think it's the smart thing to say, it's the obvious thing to say. the reality is jeb bush is evolving as the republican party is evolving. i think everybody in the republican field now is trying to figure out how much do i appeal to the base during the primaries. how much do i play it moderate. he -- because he doesn't have as much to lose. he has the money behind him. he may or may not have to court the adelson and the koch brothers. he can hold true to his principals like common core and immigration reform and p...

Candidates, one that their candidate might lose, and the pressure is on. according to a report in "new york times" today, chit chit and bush have luhr begun pushing top funders to commit to them. donors worry they'll be split into competing camps and have to raise millions of dollars in for a bloody primary and provide a path for a rand paul or ted cruz who the big money donors think have little chance to win the presidency. here's the thing. in the post citizens united world the members of the g.o.p. traditional donor class, millionaires and billionaires are rather amazingly the little guys. ...