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Prosecutor to make out a charge for a parent who willfully conceals the criminal activity of their juvenile and fails to get them help for whatever their sexual -- they may have some sort of mental illness that leads them to that problem. >> fails to get them help. they said one thing and actually did another. they said that they had sought help for him in counseling but michele duggar the mother revealed later they sent him to be with a friend. what is it in their mind that is helping and not criminal? no well, it comes down to raises the question what is the adequacy, adequate form of report...

Waiting at military bases. some of whom anecdotally are sleeping in plastic containers. haven't had showers. the question of adequacy. the question of who is representing these minors in courts of law. we know the doj has announced 100 lawyers parallels represent the minors but a bandaid overstates what that potentially represents. given your work on this specific issues with what is needed? >> sure. first of all these kids are not getting a free ride. they're placed into the deportation proceedings as any adult would be. that's an adversary yal's very formal courtroom setting where the child ...

You va -- what do you say to that? could the politicians share some of the blame? >> i think so. i think that we need to listen to the pain of that parent. i think that everybody needs to put themselves in the position of having lost a child through gun violence. all of us have to put ourselves in the shoes of that gentleman. and so we need to have a renewed discussion in capitol, and we don't have destructive conversations about these issues. again, it is mental health services, and we have to look at the adequacy, and also the gun violence and also whether in this case there were mistakes ma...

Anxiety we experience as parents. >> reporter: the hardest stages she says are the early years and teenage years, where a child is fighting for independence and parents have a hard time letting go. she also believes in the digital age of pinterest, facebook and instagram add to a mother's feelings of an adequacy and guilt. but rather than forgo parenting, parents just need to be realistic. >> it's okay to be uncertain. >> reporter: what she says those unscientific studies can determine are the long-term joy that comes with raising kids. >> talking about fun is a very thin form of happiness. jo...

>> i started writing in sitcoms a long time ago and i was gracious to have a script coordinator to read everything i wrote. when she thought it was ready, she put a smiling face at the end and i knew it was job done. gayle, seeing you here tonight, smiling. you take away all of that soul crushing. and adequacy. >> that is john ridley accepting the oscar last night for best adapted screen play for "12 years a slave." we are so excited for him here at msnbc. joining the table is the president and ceo of the aspen institute, walter isaacson. and political director and host of "the daily rundown "...