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Static scoring but that is the best -- the cbo is the best measure that we have, and if you're the trump administration, you cannot honestly use cbo data when obama is in office and use it to your advantage and now a year and a half later larry kudlow say it's garbage. that's not politics. it's disingenuous. >> if you don't like it, change the way it's done. the point is, that's the measure. more importantly, in new analysis of -- actually, i think it was great, that stuff. it was terrific. i have no better numbers than to use the cbo. analysis of fortune 500 companies by the public advocacy g...

Why not have that conversation before nikki haley goes out there fronting for this administration. >> kudos for doing so. this is weird on a lot of levels. that's an unforce ed error. that's very strange when nikki haley has been leading conversations in a strong way and then this happens. >> for a long time the real problem with the trump administrati administration's policy toward russia is it was extraordinarily soft. to some degree they have remedied that and have over the last month. they've taken two rounds of sanctions. they have become tougher. today the bigger problem is it's incohere...

When it comes to international relations this is important because if people at the united nations as they are discussing sanctions whether it's russia or syria do not believe that nikki haley represents or speaks for the president of the united states, nikki haley might as well not be there. >> i think she's much better regarded than any other member of the administration in foreign policy. >> really engaged. >> there's suspicion she is pursuing these policies without the administration's consent and on this latest round, it wasn't an obvious right answer. >> we have to go to some live pictur...

>> is nikki haley getting thrown under the bus by the administration because she gets a lot of bipartisan support? >> i think what has happened and not just this time but before with the expulsion of the diplomats is president trump is oblivious to the details and he agrees to something in general and he agreed to expulsions of 60 russian diplomats and he realizes that france is only expelling four. then he lights into his aides and denounces them. he agreed to something in general and mnuchin and haley ran with it and he pays attention and decides no that's not his policy. >> the same way he ...

It's some senior career people as well as trump appointees. when the people who question him get shuffled out, that sepnds te message that you better not question what scott pruitt is going or you'll lose your job. that seems to explain why we have these problems coming up again and again because he has sent the message that nobody who knows ethics rules and laws should be questioning him. >> congress knows ethics rules. we've seen republicans in congress now taking issue. >> asking for the e-mails and documents. >> can they do anything about it or it's only up to the president? >> ultimately ...