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That influence to affect administration decisions, conspireing. if you could prove up that his payments were influencing this decision for at&t, although i'll note the decision has gone so far adversely to at&t based on what president trump has said, but if you could make the case that the payments were in exchange for an official act, then you could have a case of bribery, extortion or some other crime. i don't think we're there just yet but i think there's damage that occurs because it raises a perception. that perception can be very problematic as well. >> mike, as you covered the beltway h...

Iran nation. the administration is on the hill as well as with our allies in europe trying to get answers. where do you see the protests, or how do you see the protests influencing administration decisions? >> one really fascinating thing about what's happening in iran is that this is spontaneous. it's broad. it's diffuse. unlike 2009, it's not centered in tehran and other big cities. it's, by my count, in maybe three dozen cities around the country, cities as small as 50,000, i'm told, have had people in the streets. it's included a tax on police stations, on symbols of the regime. i think wh...

>> alex was asking were you a volunteer? were you involved and active in political issues before? how did you come to be contacted? >> i was never really like involved in this. it was just -- they said the kirkwood administration had asked me. otherwise it was just through that relationship that i was a part of kirkwood's program. >> i can tell you from speaking with the head of the program, that we were actually inside with that the administration looked at their own student body. they just looked at their student body and thought who would be good students who would be interested in this who...