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You know, if your daddy ise buys the library,daddy ise you can get in. and also there is a diversity react that gives people an advantage as well. >> sean: mom, dad, and grandpa. >> and legacy. there is also a diversity racket as well that gives people unfair advantage. the american dream, as i said, is based on equal opportunity, hard work, and not on race and wealth, and those things have to be removed from the system if it's going to be fair. >> why not open the admissions process, make it an open system where can you see like the asian kids suing harvard. it should be open. idlet's see wha...

Completely without merit. they will look through the admissions process, they think they're going to win. >> a lot of schools are going to be looking through the process at these institutions. i can tell you, i don't know if stanford is going to win or lose, but minorities are now looking and reflectively, saying, wait a minute, we worked hard. we thought we could get in my marriage. our mothers and fathers and relatives did not have this kind of money. and so this, while it's difficult for us to understand, it has peeled back the onions on something that is going on in these educational insti...

System and getting ahead of people who are trying to work. college is still pathway to success for many people and it's very hard one for many people who have all kinds of other responsibilities and things going on. >> tucker: we could fix this instantly. people trust the outcome of sporting events because they watch them on tv. it's transparent. you know what happens. you know who won rating recently know that the whole gateway to the ruling class is controlled by the ruling class and it prevents lots of people people from entering on unfair criteria. so why not just tell us exactly how peopl...

Like," a conversation about race in america. you note that this illegality, this breathtaking crime, is part of the leaching of merit out of the admissions process, to quote you. >> exactly. money and advantage have krup corrupted this process for a very long time. here we're talking about illegal activity, but it's not that far removed from what happens with parents paying money to get an edge over the less affluent kids. we need to ask how that happens and what it means. we've talked a lot politically about americans who are struggling economically and seed at the elite. when they seed at th...

But your question is right on point, it's all a kind of cheating, it's just that some of it is illegal and some of it is strangely legal. >> it's what you said. i think you said. here. while colleges pledge fair admissions process, they don't patrol what's going on with nearly enough earnestness and energy to honor their promise. they are ripe to be gamed, because the college admissions process is a game. >> right. so one of the myths we have in this country is that when all of these kids apply to stanford or harvard or yale or even schools that aren't quite as selective, they're engaged in so...