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Didn't like the idea about parties. and they would be very upset with seeing the way the supreme court has been factionalized, that i think should be disturbing to everyone. if that's a motivating force, i think you're going to see women already in record numbers running for office. women already in record numbers coming out. that's only going to be amplified by this. >> adolpho, i imagine you're hearing from republicans who are energized themselves. >> i think very energized. i think this is the kavanaugh bump. let's talk about some specific races. first of all, the battle in the last week or...

Let california to most americans. he believed that segregation was constitutional. he believed that the civil rights act was unconstitutional. he believed that senator turner could be turned away from a lunch counter, because of the color of her skin. his views were outrageous. and i thank god every day that the senate voted him down. somehow that becomes an unfair treatment? no. so i think we have terrible politicization of our courts now. and really, the person responsible is mitch mcconnell. >> adolpho, do you agree with that? >> i can't disagree more. first of all, i want to go down memory...

Nothing to do with the president's campaign. so i think what you're hearing there, jake, is an effort to try to preserve the possibility of a pardon from president trump should that come to pass. >> all right, evan perez, thank you so much. let's talk about this with our efforts, adolpho. it includes briefings with the special counsel's office, handing over documents, testifying in other proceedings. you look at trump's other inner circle who are cooperating with the investigation. two men at the top of his campaign, his former personal supervisor, the ceo of the trump organization. should pre...

Contest there was russian or some type of interference in the 2016 election. the president contends there was no collusion between the trump campaign and the president to effect the results of the election. and that's what i think the white house is preparing a rebuttal to. obviously, this has been expanded to include potentially other areas well beyond that initial mandate. so i think the white house is very clearly sticking to what had -- everyone understood to be the purpose and the focus of the investigation. and in fact, jim, to date, despite all the sources we have heard back and forth. ...

Panelists. you heard that they believe that i.c.e. should be abolished and that is the right messaging that should be coming out right now? >> well, look, i they the activists have no reason to go out there to say that we should keep i.c.e., because the only thing about i.c.e. and not just this year, buttal with before these children were kept in cages and away from their families is that i.c.e. goes into the homes and rips apart the families and deports. again, we don't hear anything positive about the i.c.e., and i can see why activists have that viewpoint. >> adolpho? >> i hope that the cli...