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We are have separations on that and we have been reporting on that adolpho. >> and they are voluntarily. >> and we have photographs. >> and they are voluntary. >> and let me continue. let me continue can, and number two, the pictures were provided by the government and they are not from 2014 to just give us -- >> and you have not seen the 2014 cage pictures? >> and can you respond though to what adolpho is asking you? >> first of all, this is -- how can you sit here, adolpho, and say that d children are not being separated from their families. >> and the families are choosing to be separated. ...

Giuliani, i guess they aren't very close, seems to be someone he feels he can trust although the process of throwing him under the bus seemed to somewhat begin today when he said he's been on the job a day. he's still learning. >> rudy is loving the spotlight. >> why would you bring in, i'm a lawyer. i wouldn't bring in the nonlawyers into the legal strategy and discussions. >> he's a lawyer. >> john kelly's role, i'm talking about john kelly's role. we were talking about stovepiping earlier. the information and the discussion and the strategy. >> i'm going to get adolpho to agree with me. i t...

President trump last an night saying they shows no collusion and no obstruction. "the washington post" says sharing comey's version of events may have backfired on the president. he writes simply put, the memos confirm trump did try to exert a level of control over his fbi director over an ongoing investigation. there's no way to argue this is vindicating for trump. the opposite is true. ginger gibson, political coach the for reuters, adolpho trank co, rnc surrogate. and margaret carlson, columnist for the "daily beast." let's talk but, sir, adolpho. explain. who won this week? >> the presiden...

Rating among independents remains stuck at 33. adolpho, why do you think the republican approval is going up inside the party but no advance among independents who decide lac elections. >> i'll tell you why for republicans first. i have the same equal respect for our former chairman. but i don't believe mr. chairman, that 75%, 0% of republicans have this wrong. the vast majority of congress. >> they're not inside the game. they're being told. >> i'm a lawyer, too. procedures are important. i know three instances to go back to the facts on this, no, the fisa court was never a prize of the total...

Appeals to not only republicans but independents and reagan type democrats. >> you're saying it strengthens the party because they run the gauntlet early on. i want to ask you, luis, with this debate, if you're a candidate on the main stage, how do you play donald trump? do you take aim or stay above the fray? >> unfortunately for republicans, they have no choice but to take him on because that's the only way they get traction. he broke a new high today in the polling, and it shows that he's a serious contender, that they have to take him seriously, and they're going to have to take him on dir...