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To talk about that on tuesday. they actually issued an order to the party is saying, please come prepared to talk about a variety of issues that were raised by friends of the court briefs, where this was raised by one of the friends of the court. in a brief about whether this state should be in effect. whether they're allowed to bring this up now. so stay tuned for the discussion on tuesday about that issue. >> that's an interesting -- a big thing to watch, it sounds like. okay, now, andrew, i have to let you go without asking you, because i'm sure you saw the former president called you jack ...

Not legal argument. that is not a factual arguments. anymore than if you say the election was stolen. you need to have facts, adjectives and adverbs is not a way of arguing, especially for someone who has been the leader of the free world, let alone anyone else. and i think that's really important on the substance which is to suggest that somehow i am jack smith's boss. again, where are the facts of that? i've had zero communications with jack smith or his team. they are independents, both within the department of justice and certainly for legal analysts on msnbc. >> well, that is a very disci...

Pretty significant, and it was a press presence outside the courthouse like i have never seen before. >> fascinating stuff. let's come back to the table here, andrew. let's go through the things that, you know, a lot of times, how unusual some of these things were. the fact that a trial date was set, it was discussed, is that normal for this kind of hearing? >> no. to have -- this is as glenn said, usually a pretty pro forma thing. i was, to glenn's point, i had the exact same reaction. obviously, the government and the defense are very focused on the trial date. it's everything for the defend...

There's a ddirth of facts. >> you know what's not in here? what did he do or not do? this is a classic donald trump where adjectives and adverbs replace discussion of facts. he is likely to be the co-conspirator and the person who made false statements. >> this is where legal analysis melds with literary analysis. thanks to all. coming up, what we know about the reported charges of espionage and how national security may have been impacted. that's next on special coverage of the indictment of donald trump is back in just 60 seconds on msnbc. stay with us.

Does the press do. if you listen to george santos, if you listen to donald trump, they have adjectives. they have adverbs, they have epithets. we -- one of the things we can do better is george santos could say i'm going to prove acts, or innocent. but what are the facts? what is it that makes these allegations erroneous? presumably, he knows. >> he hasn't shared any of that yet. >> exactly. these snippets are fine. but one of the ways to sort of get at this is to really say, okay, let's go through -- let's get into the weeds. you're saying campaign fraud, let's talk about the email you sent. ...