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Anyway. this may be temporary. it may all explode tomorrow. but today is a different day for donald trump. >> i had the exact same reaction. it is the fact that he has for criminal cases that cannot be easy. that has to weigh on you. i think it's something more. of course he wants to try his case in a place where, in the court of public opinion and not in the court of law, where facts and law matter. but there are two big things that are coming up. in the georgia case and in the d.c. case the judge is going to be deciding when is there a trial date. d.c. in particular, that's going to happen o...
And all the court said no. and so, here, he now has four, you know, it seems like at least for criminal cases. and his strategy is to never have a sort of trial where the public gets to see the evidence, where there is a place where facts and law matter. and he is avoiding, essentially, this sort of faulty made him go into court because he operates in this world of all spin, all what i tell you is the truth. and this is a place where so far the jury system and the judges have, you know, by and large, acquitted themselves very well. but it's one of the last bulwark's that we are seeing in place...
Pretty significant, and it was a press presence outside the courthouse like i have never seen before. >> fascinating stuff. let's come back to the table here, andrew. let's go through the things that, you know, a lot of times, how unusual some of these things were. the fact that a trial date was set, it was discussed, is that normal for this kind of hearing? >> no. to have -- this is as glenn said, usually a pretty pro forma thing. i was, to glenn's point, i had the exact same reaction. obviously, the government and the defense are very focused on the trial date. it's everything for the defend...
Didn't, is not admissible. what is going to be admissible is what facts are there. this really goes to tim's point that he's said over and over again. there are no facts. just remember to this day there are no facts. in other words, even if there were no facts then, even now there's still no facts. so at the end of the day, a criminal case is where facts and law matter. so the other point is that putting in to the grand jury people like jared kushner, everyone who was around the president, to learn what they would say is a critical part of what jack smith's job is at this point. whether their ...