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I was making headlines every week. trump was also reaching people online and the alt-right became an advertising wing and the alt-right's anonymous i am not anonymous if i dare say so, i think i'm interesting. >> you mean you were a symbol of a broader movement that didn't have a face? >> exactly, yeah. and people could kind of freak out and love to hate me and maybe hate to love me. >> are you a virgin of the neo nazi movement. >> there was the punch of 2017 when political violence hits back and it was almost like the alt-right were fighting back so you have go punch that goldie locks or what...

A -- characterization of piling. i want to ask you the most interesting thing, did you do it on purpose and do you feel bad? >> charlottesville? >> the whole movement itself. did you do it on purpose or did you not care? >> i didn't create the movement? you named it and became the face of it. >> i was trying to unite everything where it would be simply me and it would have been better if they had [ bleep ] bent the knee and shut the [ bleep ] up. >> wow. >> the whole 2016, 2017 experience was quite something, wasn't it? i was making headlines every week. trump was also reaching people online a...