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Kill herself. clearly, she did help aeg in that she established jackson did have an issue with propofol dating back decades, but for the jackson family lawyer, she was an asset in that she continued to humanize michael jackson. that is something nobody could argue with. >> so, debbie rowe giving jurors a unique look into michael jackson's home life, his children and his addiction. good to see you. and richard -- hello. new york criminal defense attorney from las vegas. good to see you as well. >> so, richard, you first. aeg lives attorneys are the ones who called debbie rowe as a witness. both...