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Hiv rates, lower infant mortality, lower rates of abortion, safe or unsafe so this is what the president is saying we don't need. we need higher hiv rates. we need higher infant mortality. we need higher abortion rates, which seems to go against the e van g -- evangelical agenda. >> when i hear that, one thing as a woman on this panel, this issue is couched in women because women bear the babies but this is a close issue. if you're a young family growing and you want to not have 12 kids or 17 kids because both the mother and father want to work, that allows men to also thooriv and men to say i...

The debate and many 15% post debate. tea party supporters again cut in half from 21% before to 10% after and slip aid among republican women. you see the consistency. carly fiorina picking up and ben carson and mr. trump going down. >> and let's look, subtraction, addition, trump, carson down and carly fiorina goes up. >> she goes up. the big question for carly fiorina is can she sustain this? strong debate performance at 14% among republican men, only 3% before. 17% among republican women and her tea party support went up to 16% of tea party voters say i'm for carly fiorina. again, at 3% and ...

Just keep your head down and we'll win races. that's not how you win races. that's based on the oh, so clever idea that if your opponent is here on the spectrum, that you have to be infinitesimally to their right so that you can capture every marginal voter right up to where they are. the problem is if you do that you destroy every single reason anyone has to show up and vote. >> so which visual will win out in the republican party? ed rendell and michael steele. governor rendell, sometimes when i watch that guy, they turn off the sound if that's possible. i see a e van g-- evangelicalis with ...