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Marketplace. there's he hub that verifies people's i'ds, then there's the actual exchanges and when the exchanges went live they had never been security-tested altogether. only in pieces. >> was there ever any end testing on the exchange? >> there was end-to-end testing on the hub. he exchange. >> there was individual modular testing and demonstration testing inside the exchange, meaning we had sample cases, sample situations we tested through. we could not test live until we went live. therefore the temporary authorization. >> reporter: she says the security testing will never end. >> did she...

In the public sector. >> that's right. >> what about the issue what they knew and when? we really didn't get to the bottom of this. at what point did kathleen sebelius understand, although they were saying october 1, we're ready to go even though that wasn't the case. why didn't she delay and why didn't she go to the president to say, we need more time? >> this is one of the points we were trying to get from her. we heard from the contractors that they told the infamous whomever at hhs, health and human services that they needed time for end to end testing. >> as you heard yesterday there was ...

That things were ready to go, we could have full confidence. because when someone uses the word extremely confident, it tells me your extremely confident. when we had testimony from the witnesses last week, i asked them about the end testing. and they said it should have been months, especially for a project of this magnitude and yet we heard it was only two weeks. now in august, gci told cms in their report -- >> cgi. >> i'm sorry. cgi. thank you. that august 9th there was not enough time in the schedule to conduct adequate performance testing. did that make its way all the way to you and do ...

She kept saying i'm accountable. but a lot of folks were saying well, who's accountable for this and that. what we really see from a tech standpoint, there were so many cooks in the kitchen. when something happens and the website crashes or goes very slow as she said, you don't really know where to point the finger because every single person, everyone's building a different type of technology. you put it together and without the end to end testing which is what she essentially said, they didn't really have much end to end testing, you see it's going to crash quite often. when you put together...

Than two minutes. and i've talked to mr. waxman. is that okay? otherwise we will -- they'll be a lot of folks who will not be allowed to ask questions at all. >> and i would submit that if the questions get submitted we would be happy to provide timely answers. >> with that, we'll try two minutes. >> i guess i won the lottery on the two minutes, madame secretary. >> time is expired. okay. >> 20 seconds, mr. chairman. on the weeb site, madame secretary, the contractors testified last week that they needed more than two weeks for end to end testing. why, in your opinion, was there not more than ...