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Contact with somebody with part of the russian spies or the russian intelligence officers in some fashion. also, finally, it will tell us about how much weight mueller and his team is going to put behind sentence recommendations. probably about six months, he's facing in prison if he were to go to prison. but how lenient he will be in what's called the allocution, meaning, what am i going to offer up to the judge as a potential punishment? very telling with people like michael flynn, rick gates, and the like. >> and manafort, if he decides to cooperate and plead guilty, as well. kaitlan, what ...

August, wolf. even though he lied to the special counsel, he later corrected the record, provided the documents that the special counsel said that he was withholding and he's a very key witness, simply because he worked with paul manafort and rick gates. paul manafort, the former chairman of the trump campaign, and rick gates, his associate in this ukraine business that they had. >> now, mueller filed a document in advance of the sentencing, saying that van der zwaan can't say anything publicly about this investigation. he knows what's going on. talk about that. >> right, under this agreemen...