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That's my prediction. it's two guys on the golf course that are in a heated battle over what their handicap is, and they're going to see who wins -- >> i don't mean to belabor it, but is any of it personal? >> i don't mean to, but he's the president-elect. he's not trump. he's the president-elect. >> in his mind, is any of it personal? >> i don't see it aez personal. look at the outreach to governor romney, outreach to other democrats, outreach to not other democrats, but drms, romney's also a republican. but my point is that he went to the never-trump community, the but my point is that he we...

What their handicap is, and they're going to see who wins -- >> i don't mean to blaelabor it but is any of it personal? >> i don't mean to, but he's the president-elect. he's not trump. he's the president-elect. >> in his mind, is any of it personal? >> i don't see it aez personal. look at the outreach to governor romney, outreach to other democrats, outreach to not other democrats, but drms, romney's also a republican. but my point is that he went to the never-trump community, the democrats, and we've opened the tent to as many people as possible. and if you go to these meetings and talk to t...