MSNBC Morning Joe June 4, 2024 13:14:00
Before 2014, he's tried to do it again, got a little overambitious for the strength of his army. but if he were able to take donbas and keep that, it would not be the end for sure. he would continue as soon as he was able to resupply, et cetera, and at some point later try to take more of the territory. and i think that a desilsive victory is required. >> former world chess champion garry kasparov, professor nick ford, thank you very much. joining us now aboard a train on his way to lviv, raf sanchez. raf -- oh, i understand we just dropped him. he is as i said aboard a moving train. we'll re-...