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>> thanks to both you and kelly. thanks so very much. as we see, secretary of state tony blinken is speaking with the european leader. we'll see what happens when they start taking questions. joining me now is a former nato commander and john brennan, with the obama administration. john brennan, we've heard a lot about the intelligence assessments especially over the weekend, the intelligence assessment that he's got 70% of the troops he would need, he's ready to go if he makes that final decision. very detailed numbers as to how many brigades he's got. there's plenty of overhead imagery. he's...

>> yes. >> not to be used. >> yes. >> they are saying look at all our weapons, look at all our weapons. >> and note where it was taken. belarus. we'll talk about that in a moment. . >> we'll talk about belarus. what do you see here? >> what you see is a lot of forces, military forces. these are the -- where the photos are coming from. it shows a lot of movements. it is threatening kyiv. this could be a feint. it is to keep kyiv on their toes. interestingly, putin keeps doing this whereas president zelensky keeps saying this isn't bothering us at all. this isn't where it's going to happen. if p...

That, you know, when it comes to bad actors in the world today, russia certainly tops the list in many categories, and i think we can definitely have a strategy that allows us to go in that direction and minimizes the kinds of things we're seeing now with ukraine. >> colonel, let me stay with you. what's the significance, considering 130,000-plus russian troops on the border of ukraine, of relocating some of them? do you see that as any indication of de-escalation, or is this what would be expected when you have so many deployed? >> victor, i think it's a feint, at least there's the possibilit...

Like who are these people coming into our country and talking about how there's going to be this war because you didn't have the sense up until this point that they felt it or that they believed it. and i can't tell you how many people i talked to, you know, and sitting in cafes and saying it just doesn't make sense, why on earth would president putin actually launch an all out invasion of ukraine. no one could seem to understand the logic of it. and whether that's because the ukrainian leadership was deliberately playing this down or whether it's because they genuinely interpreted the intelli...

Official from the army who said, look, we gave up our nuclear weapons in the early 1990s and we got assurances back then that we would be protected as a sovereign country and those assurances haven't given us anything today. so they're pretty skeptical about the language around that. then i think there's some skepticism about whether putin is just using this moment of negotiations as a feint, as a time to resupply his troops, to regroup in ukraine, all the while spinning out the talking but actually not intending to negotiate at all. that seems to be what cia director bill burns was telling co...