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Collusion." why don't other criminal defendants think about that? why wouldn't that be enough for a special counsel? i, donald trump, didn't do nothing, signed donald trump. he can even get it notarized so it would be official. i'm sure that would set this to rest, right? needless to say, nobody nbc news spoke with today thought robert mueller might go for the affidavit idea. joining us is carol lee, a national political reporter for nbc news. she's one of the reporters who broke this story today. nice to have you with us tonight. thanks for being here. >> it's great to be with you, rachel. th...

Rest, right? needless to say nobody at nbc news thought robert mueller might go for the affidavit idea. joining us is carol lee, a reporter that broke this story today. nice to have you with us tonight. thanks for being here. >> thanks for having me. thank you. >> we're getting your reports first, we found a couple other news outlets reporting seeming to be focussing in on the timeline, the question of whether or not this is something coming up imminently or something being discussed as a ra hypothetical. what is your understanding now? >> my understanding is it's fluid for the reasons you lai...