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Targets. reza sayah is in pakistan. why do you think that his followers wanted to move beyond attacks to the united states? >> there are indications they didn't want blowback or america to move into their region. that seemed to be a source of disagreement between osama bin laden and some of his affiliate groups. certainly, u.s. officials say when they looked at these documents, they do show that osama bin laden was fixated on carrying it out, another attacken o the scale of 9/11 on u.s. soil. these documents had osama bin laden marking off key dates on the u.s. calendar for july and christmas ...

Oppression and justice and conflict in this particular region. he thought the best way to get the u.s. and u.s. forces out of this region was to kill as many civilians as possible on u.s. soil. what's interesting again is that some of those affiliate groups in other parts of the world, yemen, somalia, algeria, didn't necessarily agree with him. they wanted to focus on smaller, regional attacks, somewhat of a source of frustration for osama bin laden according to these documents. >> interesting. i was also wondering, how active was bin laden in plotting attacks. did his compound be called a com...

I have to talk about organized terrorists. what's left? >> these affiliate groups, al qaeda in the arabian peninsula, and group inspired by bin laden, but not controlled by, because after 9/11, the invasion of afghanistan really destroyed the past for the management infrastructure, but these groups are every bit as dangerous, in some ways more dangerous. >> can they pull off something big with the combination of hijackings, are they capable of the big operations? are they going to blow up whatever? >> you don't want to discount that, but really there was an attack in marrakesh last saturday in...

Member of the commission and a navy s.e.a.l. howard drum for the cia in europe. in america we have crime and organized crime. i have to talk about organized terrorists. what's left? >> these affiliate groups, al qaeda in the arabian peninsula, and group inspired by bin laden, but not controlled by, because after 9/11, the invasion of afghanistan really destroyed the past for the management infrastructure, but these groups are every bit as dangerous, in some ways more dangerous. >> can they pull off something big with the combination of hijackings, are they capable of the big operations? are th...

>> the process of radicalization takes many different forms, it can be through local preachers, the affiliate groups of al qaeda, these are groups that have local grievances as well as international objectives and so depending on if you're looking at an immigrant and they come from somalia, that might pull them in the direction of some of those east african terror groups you mentioned. at the end of the day -- >> leland: i want to get this before we have to go, when it comes to the issue of radicalization, have they begun to crack down after these past attacks? on those community hate preacher...