Affiliate type of person. that's what, somebody who's a self-styled al qaeda affiliate or somebody who's actually gone to a training camp? how do you distinguish between that? >> in this case, this person has not been to a training camp. they might have been radicalized by friends or the internet, an increasing concern of officials in new york city. but he's self-radicalized, joined sort of the movement on his own but is not connected to the opportunities for training that they might get in afghanistan. if they had that opportunity, this would have been a more sophisticated device. >> so where...