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Mockery of any sort. it was the opposite. >> it was the opposite. but he didn't give it enough context. he didn't explain before he gave the example that he had had these painful incidents when he was a child. in the story it talked about how nuns made fun of him front of his other classmates and how he was really torn by this for many years of his life. he had a lot of therapy for stuttering. and so he was talking about helping someone who had the same affliction he had, but i worried when he was doing it that people didn't understand the background. >> yeah. >> you had to know the background...

>> who really started the fight? >> he started the fight. he started the entire thing. >> but elmore has a reputation for fighting. he's serving a one-year sentence for assault on a police officer. >> when you resist arrest they try to make it like you're out looking for police officers to beat up or something and that's not what it is. i don't put my hands on someone unless they put their hands on me. >> elmore says that's exactly what franklin did during their monopoly game. but franklin says he would never hurt anyone. >> i'm the most kindest guy on the block. if not the most encouraging. >...

Argument? how do you make a case to the american public when the side you're arguing with refuses to acknowledge what they heard and saw with their own ears and eyes? >> two things. we have to try to speak to the american public. i think that in the intelligence committee hearings, on the democratic side, we try to play it as straight as we could. and let the witnesses tell the story. and i think on our side, there was a minimum of speech, doing that thing that members of congress do to hear themselves talk. seco secondly, what you're commenting on now is really a situation that i think is an ...

♪ >> how central should the president's conduct uncovered by this impeachment inquiry be to any democratic nominee's campaign for president? senator warren, you've said that you've seen enough to convict the president and remove him from office. will you try to convince your republican colleagues in the senate to vote the same way? would you support to potential criminal w investigation into president trump after he leaves office?ul >> laura: so i guess we know what rachel maddow wants in her next president. revenge. this is what the democrat platform will be. get trump even if they win. her...

>> how central should the president's conduct uncovered by this impeachment inquiry be to any democratic nominees campaign for president. senator warren, you've said that you've seen enough to convict the president and remove him from office. will you tried to convince your republican colleagues in the senate to vote the same way? would you support to potential criminal investigation into president trump after he leaves office? >> laura: so i guess we know what rachel maddow wants in her next president. revenge. this is what the democrat platform will be. get trump even if they win. here, mike...