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Or is this a premeditated act as jon was saying, the notion of leaving the base and the kind of methodical nature of these killings that feels like it was something different? >> clearly, in a way it's some of both. meaning that, this was a very irrational man at that time. it's not typical of people with post-traumatic stress. it's not what we see when someone quote-unquote snap. it occurs more in the heat of the moment. this was a planned act. he clearly had in mind. also the very nature of the act tells us this was a very tormented man. what he did was very, very disturbing. >> colonel jaco...

Continue owe parent are not hostage to a bad school district and lose their children, they're going to get hispanic hearing. now, when it comes to the immigration question -- >> hold on. i want to pause on the school for one second. it goes back to this question shall on the one hand, you have issues like school choice and the desire to have quality education that all communities want. but if the immigration policies set in place a circumstance where teachers are pulling kids out and confirming their status as american citizens, i mean, if i'm send sending my third grader to school, i don't wa...

That's a game changer in illinois, the beginning of the race, never thought this would be something we're covering. is there something that could change the momentum in this race in the next couple of days? >> melissa, i think the real story in illinois is the question of turnout. as we've seen in other states, such as ohio and michigan where romney has done well in the urban, suburban dynamic versus santorum doing well in the rural dynamic, that's what you're seeing in illinois. the question is, in the chicago metropolitan area where the bulk of the republican votes are cast, there's a lot of...

Long experience, what were your first ideas about what had likely occurred? >> the first thing that popped into my mind is that the chain of command had failed. you have a large number of people living in closed quarters for a long period of time. they see each other every day all day, day after day. they're almost never apart. and yet, somebody managed to do something which came as a tremendous surprise. the first thing that comes to my mind is that the -- this staff sergeant who worked for a sergeant first class, a lieutenant, a captain, all of whom live together, it should have been determi...

Kelly, attorney raul reyes and mike gonzalez of the heritage foundation. joining us is keith boykin a bet columnist and cnbc contributor and former white house aide to president clinton. just at the break, we were talking about this kind of question about what the republican party's multiple strategies might do to be attractive and hear about what the democratic party has to do and president obama needs to do going forward. >> so far, as the republican primaries have played out, it has really been like a gift to president obama because i'm the first one to say that, latinos are disappointed wi...