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Where a lot of these shootings occur, and there is some anti-cop sentiment but i believe the media blows it out of proportion tremendously that causes those things to fester. >> i think i want to stop there because i would like to get the former police commissioner to respond to that. >> look, i think there is the anti-cop rhetoric stuff. i think it started at the white house. >> no way. >> started at the white house. >> no way. >> it's been done -- dubbed down through governor -- >> holding police accountable is not a problem. >> holding police accountable is not a problem. >> the obama admin...

Line by the washington times that donald trump was winning voters on the economy who were putting their pro-life believes second, third to the economy because that's what the voters care about. people have their personal beliefs. >> you won't get a disagreement with me there. it's always been about the economy. democrats didn't even stay on message there. it was an historic year for u.s. law enforcement not in the way that one might hope. as we learn that the ambush style attacks have result fld the biggest surge of officer deaths on record. we'll debate what's going on here and how america'...

Violence scenes where a lot of the shootings occur. there is some ooent cop sentiment but i believe the media blows it out of proportion tremendously. >> i would like to get the former police commissioner to respond to that. >> look. the anti-cop rhetoric stuff, this is stuff that started at the white house. started at the white house. >> no way. no way. >> it's been down -- >> holding police accountable is not a problem. >> holding police accountable is not a problem. >> police don't want to be held accountable for certain things. that's not anti-cop. >> how is this a direct result of the oba...

Biggest variable would be his persuasion skills and that there would be lots of ups and downs and lots of scandals and stuff but the big thing would be persuasion. in the end, some of the scandals were bigger than i anticipated and there were more of them so between the "access hollywood" tape and the comey revelations, those probably canceled each other out. i think at this point the persuasion was the biggest factor. >> you point out, though, his vagueness, whether it's intentional vagueness, i just want to play sound. this is when he sat down with le lesley stahl on "60 minutes." >> are you...

>> so he's not talking about elections being stolen except in some cases when he is talking about elections being stolen. >> i would be -- you want to say i think the election in fld a philadelphia and chicago is going to be fair? i'd be a moron to say that. i'd dislearn everything i learned in 40 years. >> people in philadelphia looked into the allegations from 2012 and they said there was nothing irregular with what happened. yes, there are areas where people only voted for obama, just like in utah. places only voted for romney. >> maybe there are situations in which it is right. i remember ...