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Linguistic professor at university. the author of "words on the move" call with it battle with the facts. misleading statements, whatever it is. do you think he is consciously lying or something else? >> not consciously. we have to understand that this is somebody who has a view of the truth that is not that of most of us. certainly not that of somebody who you think of as a president of the united states. the -- the man who shot liberty valance, the john ford film where you get the aforism in the the truth if the legend is more interesting, if it's better for -- in the case of trump his ego. ...

More. and we wanted to include daca in this bill. the democrats would not do it. they would not do it. >> so has donald trump the forgotten he is the one who ended the daca program back in september? i want to bring in the linguistic professor at university. the author of "words on the move" call with it battle with the facts. misleading statements, whatever it is. do you think he is consciously lying or something else? >> not consciously. we have to understand that this is somebody who has a view of the truth that is not that of most of us. certainly not that of somebody who you think of as a...