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Whether he wants to sign or veto them. i will be part of writing the laws. whether he agrees or not is up to him. bill: critics say whether this goes forward you're simply adding millions to the government dole, as many as 6 million illegals could get some form of government assistance. if that is not accurate, why is that the case? can you guaranty the legislation you spelled out so far will prevent that? >> well, i won't support a bill that does that, i can tell you that much. that is not what the principles say. in fact the principles are very clear they do in the qualify for federal benefi...

Safety net and gutting support for education, schools, food, forred middle class. that is one of the real defending shuns to make and who really is in touch and share the values of the middle class? that is something obama has had a double-digit lead over romney on now for a long time. heather: justin, 10 seconds. your response. >> higher taxes, bigger government, and more regulation is not going to help the middle class and more debt will not help the middle class. it will devastate the middle class. heather: that debt clock, was definitely telling at the convention all week. thank you both f...

With the death penalty. i think if you're going to use that logic, then there are some other sanctions but essentially, by eliminating 40 scholarships and denying penn state the ability to play in bowl games for four years, you're crippling the four year, you're crippling the program forred a least a decade if not longer. so if essence they did issue a death penalty-like penalty. >> and in sports terminology, that is to shut down the program. at this stage, how does penn state recruit young men for their program when they know they have no option of postseason play? >> they're really put willi...

Place where the president is. on the one hand he needs it recapture some of the magic and enthusiasm from 2008 and i actually spent part of the week in virginia and i think people are, democrats are recapturing the excitement and getting really excited to work hard forred president. they also have shaken off some of the apathy that quite frankly they felt in 2010. where democrats had done very well and we felt like we won and they kind of wanted to sit at home. they've shaken that off. they're nervous about what's to come. at the same time, it's not the same set of circumstances. the president...

Republicans that came out to vote four years ago were from chicago and those counties. moderates left the door open for a conservative to win in 2010. will we see the reverse today? conservatives split the vote a little, pave the way for a romney landslide? that's what we're watching forred it joining me, state senator dillard. on the losing end by 500 votes. it took a week to find out. >> 193, chuck, but who's county? >> but who's counting? >> actually, you still might be counting. fair enough. talk about this issue of where the votes are, where romney -- first of all, have you pick add horse...