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And we act like we can't have a immigration system that properly considers asylum appeals, and it's what he's doing in terms of deploying the national guard to the border, disrupting the lives of texans down that's correct correct, we're a trade state. mexico is by far our number one trade partner, and he's making that part of the economy take a hit. it doesn't make any sense other than appealing to the farthest part of his party and seeing that he can run for president in 2024. >> how different this conversation would be if they thought of the border as a place where we could have an exchange...

To france, because this is a far-right politician, anti-immigrant, very close to putin, as i said. it would have major implications for europe, and the ability of the west, which has been so united, to remain united in the focus of ukraine. it would be a real blow. the good news is that macron was ahead, in fact, by a larger margin than he was five years ago, so hopefully the people of france will deliver the verdict that not only the french but the rest of the world needs. >> i take the ambassador's point. it also shows you how tenuous these alliances are. that as we are having this conversat...

Unfortunately, to see more war crimes than not with them being amplified with the potential strategy of what is known as carpet bombing. just indiscriminate bombing of ukrainian cities in the east and in the south, similar to what we've seen in syria, particularly in aleppo. >> i was sort of taken by something that the ukrainian foreign minister said earlier during an interview with "meet the press." take a listen. >> if we were a member of nato, this war wouldn't take place. we propose to the west and nato a fair deal. you provide us with everything that we need, and we fight so that you don'...

War and really crippling russia's economy is a total embargo with secondary sanctions on gas and oil. and that, we're not there yet. the europeans are stalling, and so it's good, it's an important move, this one, if it takes place, but it's not enough, i'm afraid. >> i want to know if you agree. i sort of heard you agreeing. i'm also curious if you can talk us through the stalling that yulia just referenced. >> i was asked this question and had the same exact answer. i'm a sanctioning nerd. i love me a good sanction, but sanctions are not going to be what changes putin's mind. they a prong in ...