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Democrats putting into place these economic programs to help blacks, why is black unemployment and all of those metrics double what it is for whites? does that tell you, then, maybe these programs that the democrats are putting forward, may not be working? >> in some cases they may not work. in some places -- >> so what's wrong with donald trump saying let's put new programs on trade and technology. >> you're talking about a again dency on government programs. >> one is, if he had new programs i would be anxious to see them. >> and the second thing to say is, and just the way -- the way you fr...