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Prices ever for aabling here in manhattan. he was at least $1.0 billion in debt. one of the concerns and see the chinese -- in particular there were chinese investors who would help him shore up which really threatened the real estate empire. that's how they were trying to influence him. there is a parallel to this, the investigation into trump ace business dealings before the election. donald trump was struggling to get cash after the recession. american banks would not loan to him because he defaulted on loans. there has always been suspicion among journalists in that did he get russian fund...

Said that they were done when there is new information still coming every day. >> right. there is going to be a lot of backlash if any one gets fired in this. now, virginia i want to bring you flew this, because jared kushner a big focus of mueller investigation. and we hear reports he has hired a crisis pr team. is this standard operating procedure or a sign that perhaps they are afraid of something? >> poor guy, he really does look like he's in crisis, and it must feel very emotional to him. as i mentioned he has been facing this week a payment due on 666, 5th avenue, his tower in manhattan,...

Ways as proof of the president trying to hold the case up or the other way around. so i think that we're going to have to wait and see what happens with that, but, you know, again mueller's team knows what they have and what flynn can provide, because that would have been part of the deal, but, you know, that might be what they are discussing is what to expect as the case goes forward. we just don't know at this point. >> got ya. all right, very complicated. tom fuentes, thank you so much. >> you're welcome. still so much more straight ahead in the "newsroom." first, preparing for your nex...

Interviews in new york next week. and add am schiff we heard him yesterday this is pressure from the white house. this is pressure from steve bannon and the republican base and republicans and congress to prematurely end investigation. and i think that is where they are heading. when you combine it what we saw on the judiciary committee and rosenstein republican after republican bringing up text messages from emerge from mueller team as pretext for under mining the larger probe saying that not only is our house investigation going to need but mueller's needs to as well. >> what are they thinki...

Weinstein and fellow travelers administration and their circle haven't hired all the crisis management firms. almost a job creations program of this administration. not just lawyers. but they need and for people who don't know what a crisis management firm is, they do press control, they control leaks, they place stories. they create momentum. they are lawyers that work for them. but even security people that work for them. this can be a giant operation. and i do think it reflects jared kushner's fear. >> and this is really highlights the pr war we are dealing with right now, which is one side...