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In a way, the fact that he came out so quickly to make this statement against the president's policy is of a piece with his attitude that the u.s. needs to be more aggress i, forthcoming, can't hang back and wait for events before deciding how to respond to things on the international stage. >> how concerned are you now that there is a larger debate and frankly, the arab spring which, president mubarak would still be in power if the president hadn't nudged him out. he was the final sort of -- it was the only way mubarak, when he knew he lost the united states, there was no way he could stay in...