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In those days, that there was quite a lot of triumphalism on the western side, _ a lot of triumphalism on the western side, generally, but particularly on the american side, that clinton and 0ther— the american side, that clinton and other people seem to want to shower and demonstrate to everybody that russia _ and demonstrate to everybody that russia had been defeated, notjust simply— russia had been defeated, notjust simply had changed its ways. but now, _ simply had changed its ways. but now, listening to and looking at the kind of— now, listening to and looking at the kind of things ...