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The president? >> that's correct. counting votes or possible votes. >> so just some brief context. 25th amendment would give an administration or cabinet officials the opportunity to remove a president. it's never been utilized before. it's a constant thing people go to during the trump administration but it's never been in my sense anywhere remotely real although this seems to provide some meat to those bones. the big question is -- it's surreal to hear that. and josh, you've covered this white house as close as anybody. how does the white house react when they see something like that and see...

Was born on third base and thinks he hit a triple. he has exceptional advantage, combined with a willingness to break the law and lie and deceive. and guess what, he's had a small percentage of successes up against a huge number of failures. >> his success politically, would you say that could be attributed to, frankly, a unique ability to read a room? >> i do think -- i hate attributing any virtue to donald trump, but i do think if this is a virtue, he does indeed have a feel for a certain kind of person. and that kind of person, by the way s a person who feels aggrieved, like he does, who fe...

They don't. they actually don't. i don't -- you apologize because you need to do that for internal work. the other person does not owe you an acceptance of that apology. and in fact, if people feel aggrieved, they have the absolute right to continue to fill aggrieved. and you don't necessarily -- there's no right to host the oscars. there is no right to make millions. the public grants that. the marketplace grants that. i think those two things are kind of operating simply. and in addition to that, the oscars have to examine what they do. look at all the rest of your comedians. they always pic...

The marketplace owe you any absolution or restoration. they don't. you apologize because you need to do that for personal work. the other person does not owe yan acceptance of that apology. if people feel aggrieved, they have the right to continue to feel aggrieved. there's no right to the oscars. no right to make millions. the marketplace grants that. the two things are operating separately. in addition to that, the oscars have to examine what they do. all of the rest of you are comedians. they always pick comedians. a lot of comedians have made horrible, homophobic, racist comments in the pa...

You know the story. my mind, what i'm seeing is the emphasis trump has placed on white identity politics and it has involved and people i think in the past were biting their tongues about it. i think this is part of the shifting demographics for the country, especially among young people. more people of color, more immigrants coming to the country. i think it challenges the idea of white majority, white control. but we need to get away from it. that's where i agree with you. focus on things that bring us together. i don't think trump is that guy. >> greg: maybe he isn't, but identity politics ...