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Themselves under siege. and nobody feel -- to take another example -- nobody feels more under siege than the people that -- >> is this just talk? >> no, it's both fund-raising talk and i think it's the way the american politics has unraveled -- >> yeah. >> -- into the emotions of aggrievement. in the old days, the nra prided itself on its bipartisanship. it had democrats like john dingell and other leading democrats, powerful democrats, who were very much a mart of their coalition. now this nra has forgotten that. it's tied itself to the republican party. it's tied itself to the deep south. it...

>> republican. >> nazi. >> the key to it is what kasie saw down there. they were celebrating the victory of their brand of politics. in other words, don't tell them that they need some centrist emblem as the new president in the nra. they'll pick the guy from the deep south. they'll pick the guy. because this is what has worked. their focus, their sense of aggrievement, their anti-elitist talk, all that, has worked in the way -- >> you're always right. this is where he's right again. to everybody watching. this isn't just about guns. is about guns. it is about this war in this country. that's ...

Over her son to her country, but that's what mothers have done. >> in a sense, i guess you think that fathers have always sent their sons to war, that's what they do, but it's the mothers who are, you know, worrying in the middle of the night. i'm not taking anything away from fathers. she does -- i was down on the mall saturday during her speech and she does have a remarkable ability to connect with the audience. it was a nonpolitical -- you got that sense of aggrievement, say what you will about me. >> why is that political power? >> i think it's ill lustive of her mindset and it's also comp...

Daring sometimes. it doesn't even cross their minds to do this most of the time. >> well, that's right. it shows the degree of aggrievement, if that's a word that some two dozen or so tea party types feel in the house. for john boehner for all his obstructionism, for all his opposition to obama, that 51 votes against obama care were not enough. they still feel that the party has to move further to the right and have more hostage-taking events when it comes to the budget and, of course, to the debt ceiling. it will remain a problem for speaker boehner, but at the same time, he has a bigger marg...

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