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he puts his own interests in front of the country's interest at every turn, and that was the ultimate. >> but you -- i don't even like the word -- you were a true believer. >> no. >> yet. because you fell for the birther thing. >> no, no, no, no. >> i'm sorry. where did you think obama was born? >> here. >> why did you say you thought he was born somewhere else? >> never did. never did, chris. i never was part of the whole birther thing. i stepped in it a couple of times and tweeted obama is a muslim, for which i am profoundly sorry. >> you never disputed his birth certificate? >> no, no, no. i was never part of the birther movement, never. i didn't love trump and i didn't like trump, i just didn't like hillary. i voted for trump in 2016, i didn't love him. i didn't like him. and then, chris, every month that went by, almost every word out of this president's mouth is a lie. i don't care what your politics are. >> so when this birther thing started, what was your position? >> i ignored it. i thought it was silly.
>> may god bless the memory of those who perished in toledo. and may god protect them. may god protect all of those from texas to ohio. >> toledo is where danny thomas is from. nobody says he is losing it. nobody says no full deck. >> look, the fact checkers have checked more than 12,000 of his lies, misstatements, whatever you want to call them. but i actually do think some of this stuff is intentional. remember the whole birther thing. >> have i people in hawaii checking this out. >> it wasn't on purpose. it was deliberate. there are things that he does are that are really deliberate and that are harmful and dangerous and that his people act on. i think it's important to call this out. i hate the comparisons. until a comparison fweeb somebody who makes an occasional couple of mistakes.
policies and lower employment rates in some area of the country. i see it. there is a mix bag of things. people can choose from the bag and say the president is racist or not. knowing personally and seeing what he did during the martin luther king jr. controversy 25 years ago where the new york stock exchange left open, getting close to honor dr. martin luther king jr. to honor him on his holiday. those are the kind s of things want to the see him do. >> the birther thing, i don't understand. i understand the average american community -- let me
until really he got in to the whole birther thing. i think that's when people started -- you know, beyond the five boroughs started paying attention to donald trump. black people started to pay attention to him. not in a good way. because he was telling, you know, these ridiculous lies about the first african-american president. in a way that sought to delegitimize him. look, as we look ahead to the election, black women voters are -- if they ever had anything to do with donald trump they're done with him. i mean, he's going to get no votes from black women. he got a few votes from black men last time around. i think he will get fewer. i don't know what that is about. it may be a certain sort of faux machismo that he tries to project and it may be all the bling that he so ostentatiously
and they are murderers and rapists. >> what are about the birther thing that obama was born somewhere else. >> that are from the beginning before he declared. that's ho who he is. >> how many agree with that? how many disagree? how many disagree and think trump is not a racist. how many think trump is innocent of this. thank you so much. we will go right now and be right back with more. jo joe,christina and jerry. the third highest rate of synthetic opioid deaths. we will talk to people on the frontlines.
bills. >> can we have the mike back here? what do you think about that comment? i think it's tricky business. the history of 250 years of slavery. 100 years of jim crowe or whatever you call this. it's easy. this is not a country that is innocent of race. that's impossible to argue. what about trump? do you think he used it to get elected? >> absolutely. absolutely. he used and created a boogie man. in his first decent down the stairs, he talked about a racial divide. the people he was talking about, he said mexicans are coming in and they are murderers and rapists. >> what are about the birther thing that obama was born somewhere else. >> that are from the beginning before he declared. that's ho who he is.
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time that we're going to send mr. obama home to kenya or wherever it is, we're going to do it. >> let's play just in fairness what his response was when people resurfaced that for him this week. >> it was early nona primary and certainly didn't indicate any personal malice that i would have towards any president, previous or sitting president. anyone who knows me, knows that there is not a racial bone in my body. >> charlie, you know, that explanation and actually a couple instances where he did the birther thing, scott put out a second one where he was seated and also used the same line about president obama, is indicating that at minimum, mark meadows is willing to utilize birtherism for his own political advancement and use the physical body of a black woman as a rebuttal against the idea that donald trump is racist. this is like a problem a lot of people have with the republican approach on race in general.
so i don't think it's my responsibility to tell him that. i think it's more alice's are sponsibility to pull him aside. maybe he needs to pull her aside and that on its face, having these birther comments on oits face is racist and you have to be willing to acknowledge that and move forward so that we don't have to be drug down in these moments that drive people crazy. >> i think we are having this conversation the right way because i said it last night just because you do something racist doesn't mean the whole of you is racist. but sometimes you're just racist. the birther thing did not help and sometimes when you do stupid and silly things, it kind of shows who you are. i thunk that's a conversation i would loveb to have with him and lin. >> and don't invalidate people