bills. >> can we have the mike back here? what do you think about that comment? i think it's tricky business. the history of 250 years of slavery. 100 years of jim crowe or whatever you call this. it's easy. this is not a country that is innocent of race. that's impossible to argue. what about trump? do you think he used it to get elected? >> absolutely. absolutely. he used and created a boogie man. in his first decent down the stairs, he talked about a racial divide. the people he was talking about, he said mexicans are coming in and they are murderers and rapists. >> what are about the birther thing that obama was born somewhere else. >> that are from the beginning before he declared. that's ho who he is.