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And in some cases, they have been successful. that's a reality. it's like, i don't know why we have trouble admitting that, and trouble having the fbi investigate it honestly. >> yeah. it is a wild and strange world. it doesn't change a lot. it just keeps going in cycles. thank you both very much. coming up next, america and allies slapped sanctions on russia. but what more needs to be done to curb putin's aggression? stay with us. curb putin's aggrn curb putin's aggrn stay with us they make me feel like i've got it all under control. voya. be confident to and through retirement.

Eastern europe right now while we're talking. they're doing it in france. they're messing around with their election. they're doing the same thing in germany. this say nis a new kind of aggrn that they're carrying out. not only all -- all the attention has been focused on what did the russians do, the hacking of the e-mail, the release to wikileaks, the question -- the second question which is were there connections between the trump campaign and the russians. the third issue that i don't think has gotten enough attention is the russians were also probing and pushing on our state election syst...