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Specifically, they changed their minds and went along with the rapid withdrawal. and their argument was -- and this is very important to understand -- we had only 3,500 troops there. that was a low. and they both concluded that this was not sufficient leverage with the taliban to achieve anything. and i think military experts would agree on that. that's just not enough. and so, they changed their point of view on this. now clearly, there was a lot of hydraulic pressure from one commander in chief, president biden. he clearly wanted to get out. when he worked as vice president for obama, he was...

But then, they changed -- our reporting shows -- very specifically, they changed their minds and went along with the rapid withdrawal. and their argument was -- and this is very important to understand -- we had only 3,500 troops there. that was a low. and they both concluded that this was not sufficient leverage with the taliban to achieve anything. and i think military experts would agree on that. that's just not enough. and so, they changed their point of view on this. now clearly, there was a lot of hydraulic pressure from one commander in chief, president biden. he clearly wanted to get o...

Then on capitol hill. and of course the chief of staff. and no one on the outside who, for all of the misreporting and misunderstanding about steve bannon being cast out, which was true for sometime. but there was a lot more communication between bannon and trump through the fall than is known now. we are starting to get some of that in bob word words book. the recognition is dawning on people, just how much bannon was in touch with trump. i started hearing about it from october, as the plans for what would happen if trump lost started to come into place. bannon was a crucial agitator. you thi...

And inside the white house chief of staff. and no one on the outside who for all of the misreporting and misunderstanding about steve bannon being cast out, which was true for a period of time, but there was a lot more communication between bannon and trump throughout the fall than is widely known now. we're starting to get some of that in bob woodward and bob costa's book. the recognition starting to dawn on people just how much bannon was in touch with trump. i started hearing about it from bannon in october before the election as the plans for what would happen if trump lost started to come...

$14,000 fine? ainsley: it says per violation. brian: republicans suing. republican governors are suing. tell me how this brings the country together and moves us any closer. ainsley: it will end up in the courts because it's a mandate versus -- is it unconstitutional? brian: and he knew it when he did it. he is trying to distract us from afghanistan and he is trying to create a foil with republican governors so cnn has something to put on their show. ainsley: two days before 9/11. steve: the president did say last week that afghanistan getting out of it was messy. covid, messy, too. brines bri...