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They really -- >> just tell people give me a date when you are pretty sure that will happen. after it is over say it didn't happen. set a realistic exercise that forces you to realize it is nonsense. in five years if they haven't come to collect the guns would you believe you are paranoid or ten years? in other words, how can this theory never been disproven? it never comes. >> they keep it at bay. they succeed. >> because they are hiding out in idaho with a bunch of guns. >> and electing republicans to congress. >> the blck helicopters are not being shot down. >> i think carson has played a b...

>> and electing republicans to congress. >> the black urck helicopters at being shot down. >> i think carson has played a brilliant role as a buffer between donald trump and reality. it's like if you kick nixon out of the white house you get agnew. if you get rid of trump you get dr. carson. >> he hasn't been as heavily scrutinized because donald trump has been leading in the polls and that is who everyone is talking about. if you look at dr. carson and when he speaks asked what he would do if a hurricane was coming his way. i don't know. he doesn't know what to do in that situation. when you ...

Thanks so much for coming in. and maryland has lost one of its most colorful popular and powerful political figures, marvin man dell has died at the age of 95. he was chosen by the state house of delegates. as governor when agnew became vice president in 1969. while in i was the end of his first marriage became a public spectacle of his wife, maryland's first lady at the time, locked him out of the governor's mansion for going off with another woman, jean dorsey. picture there whom he later married. voters were unfazed. they re-elected mandel in 1974 with two thirds of the vote. mandell's 26...

For all of your -- with terror threats rising here and around the world, is this any time to be closing gitmo down? cuba is demanding it and now the white house is appoint agnew envoy to help do it. the white house says keeping gitmo open is too costly. it puts a target on our backs, but john tammany disagrees. what do you think, john? >> i have lot skepticism about the war on terror too, but if we're going to be at war and if in fact gitmo keeps us safer and if it makes it less likely that terrorists will reach the united states and bring us harm well need to keep it open because, let's face ...

We'll have more rye cannot ares unless the businesses get behind the goals of the great societiment congress passed a stalled housing bill that basically trying to open housing this the books of of law. on the other side you had figures like agonew who called together a group of oh distinguished african-american leaders in baltimore. ministers, urban league peoplement placid solid, middle of the road people. basically read them the riot act and blamed them for the riots. the response was astronomical for agnew. he was richard nixon's running mate. >> that's a big part of american history. sort...