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>> bob, about this president, the charitable way to put it is he has an agnostic view of business deals. the less charitable way is, when you balance the job of president-elect and/or president up against head of a family, you know, real estate licensing firm, those are not equal. one has to yield to the other in terms of being a steward for our nation. talk about the fact that there was some equivalence going on here. >> it's clear that he simply has never recognized the constraints on him as a public figure, as the presidential candidate or as a president. and one of the disturbing story lin...

It just made me smile. >> bob, about this president, the charitable way to put it is he has an agnostic view of business deals. the less charitable way is, when you balance the job of president-elect and/or president up against head of a family, you know, real estate licensing firm, those are not equal. one has to yield to the other in terms of being a steward for our nation. talk about the fact that there was some equivalence going on here. >> it's clear that he simply has never recognized the constraints on him as a public figure, as the presidential candidate or as a president. and one of t...

He has an agnostic view of business deals. the less charitable way is, when you balance the job of president-elect and/or president up against head of a family, you know, real estate licensing firm, those are not equal. one has to yield to the other in terms of being a steward for our nation. talk about the fact that there was some equivalence going on here. >> it's clear that he simply has never recognized the constraints on him as a public figure, as the presidential candidate or as a president. and one of the disturbing story lines i think which has gotten an additional boost in the last 24...

Take a moral position and say that there's some kinds of protests that are effective and some kinds that are less effective. some that are more desired and some that are not desired. i think it's important for us to say, i don't think that property destruction in poor communities that are trying to come back is a valid form of protest. i don't see any history -- >> is that where you take issue with what mark was saying? >> i think he was taking more of an agnostic view that we need to give some space for a range of taktsics. i would say i disagree. we should be showing moral leadership and say...

Closing arguments. there is no evidence in between. that's what i say science brings us is the evidence. science requires the evidence. >> can, though, and i ask this, by the way, i do agree, science does not and, you know, in the grand design which i wrote with steven hawking we got a lot of publicity because we said we don't need god to create the universe. it is very important to realize we did not say and science cannot say that god did not create the universe or we don't say there is no god. >> it is an agnostic view. >> right. >> basically not your job. >> thank you. tell him. >> exactly...