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i'm not getting into that. >> i think what the real focus is here again is on religious tolerance. that's really what this is about. and i think again to make this a big issue is just ridiculous right now. >> we're covering all the angles for you. paul steinhauser is in washington. and shannon travis is in iowa. let's go ahead and start with you, paul. bachmann and cain ducking the debate shows. just how delicate the balancing act proves, i guess, how delicate that balancing act needs to be. so what do you think? is this the end of the topic, or are we going to hear a lot more? >> i ...

Irresponsible of the speaker. he had said previously that he understands how important it is for the united states of america not to default on our loans, to not put at risk the full faith and credit of the united states. not to put at risk enormous new costs to the government for the cost of borrowing. interest rates will go up. it will affect borrowing for businesses and families. it is enormously risky for this country to be in this position. what we would hope is speaker would do is they would not even consider -- the most agregregio tax provisions that would bring in revenue is really irr...