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He does seem like he's nice. to me he seems uncomfortable with himself. >> i think it happens to barack obama. >> does it? he's one of the most likable -- >> he's often described in washington as remote, as being somewhat cold. >> but the american people don't see that. that's what we're talking about, the translation of a person's personality. barack obama comes off as somebody who showed up at the apollo theater and belted out a line from al greene and people are like, whoa. >> that's one side of him. there have been other times during the presidency when he's been much harder to access. if ...

During the presidency when he's been much harder to access. one of the stories i tell in my book is him during the senate campaign. he skipped out on a fund-raising meeting and nobody could find him. one of his aides tracked him down, a white aide track him down at his barber shop. obama comes into the office a couple hours later and he's comically bellowing at the aide. he says your punishment for disturbing a black man at his zarber shop is to watch the movie "barber shop" and watch the sequel, "batcher shop 2." >> that's good. >> there is a relationship between a black man and his barber, i...