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Chris, right now you and i are putting our opinions out on television. you are making money on this, i am not. chris is in business on tv, so we're going to infringe on his first amendment rights, but tim and sandra, they're just doing this -- >> that's a bad thought experiment for about 90 different reasons, the first being the actual -- and there's specific constitutional name parties. there's specific constitutional case law around that. but taking that aside, the argument that sandra's making is there is no iteration of the argument that doesn't prove too much. there are presumably some fa...

Chris, right now you and i are putting our opinions out on television. you are making money on this, i am not. chris is in business on tv, so we're going to infringe on his first amendment rights, but tim and sandra, they're just doing this -- >> that's a bad thought experiment for about 90 different reasons, the first being the actual -- and there's specific constitutional name parties. there's specific constitutional case law around that. but taking that aside, the argument that sandra's making is there is no iteration of the argument that doesn't prove too much. there are presumably some fa...

Being the actual press is a main party in the first amendment. and there's specific constitutional name parties. there's specific constitutional case law around that. but taking that aside, the argument that sandra's making is there is no iteration of the argument that doesn't prove too much. there are presumably some faith traditions that believe that aids is the punishment of a wrathful god and to deny coverage for aids coverage and i cannot imagine any conceivable universe that a just society could allow a corporation to assert that conscious clause to deny coverage for aids treatment. >> t...