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Wins. he still hasn't risen above that yet because we are not convinced. >> chris: but governor, he has been running for five years. >> and he has spent millions and millions and millions of dollars and he hasn't risen yet. >> chris: what does he need to do to convince you? >> still needs to be able to articulate solutions to the challenges facing america. all four of them. they need to quit beating each other up. we already know that the left and the media ail lyes to the left are going to beat up candidates and attack their reputations and attack their families. we don't need to do that job ...

Wins. he still hasn't risen above that yet because we are not convinced. >> chris: but governor, he has been running for five years. >> and he has spent millions and millions and millions of dollars and he hasn't risen yet. >> chris: what does he need to do to convince you? >> still needs to be able to articulate solutions to the challenges facing america. all four of them. they need to quit beating each other up. we already know that the left and the media ail lyes to the left are going to beat up candidates and attack their reputations and attack their families. we don't need to do that job ...

And primary wins and caucus wins. he still hasn't risen above that yet because we are not convinced. >> chris: but governor, he has been running for five years. >> and he has spent millions and millions and millions of dollars and he hasn't risen yet. >> chris: what does he need to do to convince you? >> still needs to be able to articulate solutions to the challenges facing america. all four of them. they need to quit beating each other up. we already know that the left and the media ail lyes to the left are going to beat up candidates and attack their reputations and attack their families. w...