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Guess the words in politico are put an advertisement for his campaign for himself. i'm sorry, maybe i'm naive. but i've heard joe biden talk about the death of beau biden. he did talk a b how he felt, how beau biden felt. and anybody who has kids knows that that is a devastating loss. and i just refuse to believe that when he was talking to anybody including maureen, he was -- he had somewhere in his head the notion. i just really can't believe that. if makes me naive, i'm happy to be naive. >> i had the same doubt i think and the aim question. i thought of the biden who the nation saw on stev...

And i just refuse to believe that when he was talking to anybody including maureen, he was -- he had somewhere in his head the notion. i just really can't believe that. if makes me naive, i'm happy to be naive. >> i had the same doubt i think and the aim question. i thought of the biden who the nation saw on steven colbert's show a few weeks ago who was jumping from one anecdote to another. i imagined that conversation playing out whether it's with maureen dowd or somebody else. and maybe this is one of the details that emerges from joe biden putting his thoughts together like that. that seems...

To run for president. so that wasn't a secret. you know, there is a spin being put on this story that biden said this stuff in order to i guess the words in politico are put an advertisement for his campaign for himself. i'm sorry, maybe i'm naive. but i've heard joe biden talk about the death of beau biden. he did talk a b how he felt, how beau biden felt. and anybody who has kids knows that that is a devastating loss. and i just refuse to believe that when he was talking to anybody including maureen, he was -- he had somewhere in his head the notion. i just really can't believe that. if make...