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Destruction of evidence and intimidation of witnesses. perjury or lying. mueller charged lots of folks with that. witness intimidation and obstruction. which rudy says nobody obstructed the investigation. both are accused of that. destruction of evidence, the only report we have that goes there is trump taking the interpreter's notes. the special counsel has charged 36 people on 192 counts with 7 guilty pleas and four prison sentences. keep that in mind when rudy says the only crime here is the dnc hack. >> let's just stay clear. if we find out that the president knew about what manafort or hi...

To help the -- devise the policy going forward. >> you're saying this isn't just some sort of junket. >> no, no, it's insulting to call a codel an excursion. this is serious business. i have no problem that she would want to go to afghanistan and talk to our leaders about what's going on. the president just a couple of weeks ago, anderson, decided to cut the troops in half in afghanistan with no other statement about what the strategy was going to be or how the strategy that was in existence was going to change. this is serious business, and it directly affects our national security. i don't h...

Does this seem straight out of his playbook? >> straight out of the new york political playbook. this reminds me of the kind of thing mayor rudy giuliani would do. this is a form of smashmouth politics that donald trump lived in for a long time, if not practicing himself. it was very predictable. the problem is it's different when you're president doing it, and i think it risks for him coming off as petty. there is no question that what you said about how it is a little hard to believe there are actual security concerns related to his speech, state of the union speech that nancy pelosi is conc...

Like this and others, this is what liberation looks like. miles and miles of rubble. >> reporter: many here fear that buried in the destruction the seeds are being sewn for another war. the team obviously took great risk to bring that report. we thank them and stay safe. news continues. hands it ore to chris for cuomo "prime time." >> thank you i am chris cuomo. welcome to "prime time." the president said good-bye to there was no collusion by anyone with russia. we no know his legal team only contest the idea the president did anything criminal. not people around him. not the campaign. quest...

Thinks possible wrongdoing is for the president. if it ain't illegal, it ain't a problem, that's rudy giuliani's statement right there. but there does seem to be this new concern among the president's lawyers and in this white house. what are you seeing? what has the mood inside the white house been? >> well, it's relatively dark and staffers inside the white house will describe the president in a very dark mood. and at times we talk about what the president has been feeling. and it's not just because of the russia investigation but essentially touching every aspect almost of not just the pres...