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Firepower, but we have not yet provided them. general keane, should we be doing much more in terms of this fight? and our u.s. involvement at this point? >> yeah, absolutely. the sunni tribes would welcome that. they want to see u.s. commitment and u.s. resolved. we literally have to one and for all get 5u89 divorce on the ground with the fighting units, the trainers to increase the through-put rather dramatically, four and fivefold and get the tactical air controllers on the ground so the air strikes are that much more effective. that would take our forces from 3,000 in excess of 10,000, and ...

Joint terminal attack controllers and forward air controllers on the ground with special operation forces so they can call those fighter jets and get that positive target identification for them so they can minimize collateral damage and ensure rounds on target essentially. you know, it's a little bit -- there are the optics and the equipment available in these fighter jets but it makes that much safer on both ends, on the pilot end and the ground guy having that effective arab-to-ground communication. >> all right. do you have any information how long it takes now to get permission to hit a t...

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Isis. they are treating isis as two different war, one in syria and one in iraq. i guarantee you isis doesn't treat it that way. >> the president don't adamant in terms of saying no boots on the ground, in terms of destroying isis. will this be effective or will we eventually see boots on the ground? >> well, we've already seen boots on the ground, as you know. they just refuse to call them combat troops because they are in combat areas. you know it's a charade. they will be having to put more in. this will be the same kind of gradualism as i recall vietnam, so there are boots on the ground. w...

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