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Like having camera ready cabinet officials. and people with business experience. and he clearly had all that. knows the world. didn't do as great in his confirmation hearings as people thought he would. but still did well. once in office has not really asserted himself until any way. so, you know we don't know. and the budget certainly, numbers, leaked budget numbers are a very bad sign from the state department's perspective. >> bret: charles. >> the outside partner. this is not just a three sided game, north korea, south korea, the chinese and the u.s. chinese are watching after 8 years of n...

Like having camera ready cabinet officials. and people with business experience. and he clearly had all that. knows the world. didn't do as great in his confirmation hearings as people thought he would. but still did well. once in office has not really asserted himself until any way. so, you know we don't know. and the budget certainly, numbers, leaked budget numbers are a very bad sign from the state department's perspective. >> bret: charles. >> the outside partner. this is not just a three sided game, north korea, south korea, the chinese and the u.s. chinese are watching after 8 years of n...