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Closer to the president's position. i think this is a reminder to the iranians that they will be increasingly isolated if they continue their activities. paul: this basically takes off the table any of the ideas of providing tax credits that the french president has had for iran to help them get over sanctions. what needs to happen now from the europeans if we really want to continue to pressure iran? what should they do next? >> well, i actually think, paul, they're going to continue to try to convince president trump to offer sanctions relief in some form. paul: oh, okay. >> i think the fren...

Kushner spoke about the tension with irans saying it would be iran's worst nightmare if this succeeded. >> shepard: tell us more about your discussions with hamas leaders. >> we spoke with senior officials today inside gaza city. a number of sources that we keep there to get their latest updates about the situation, whether it's cease fires unfolding or other larger peace plans like what we've looked at here. i want to read you quickly a text message from a senior official in hamas texting me this from gaza city. yes, we read it comfortably and we're impressed but negatively impressed how naiv...

Now. thank you for taking a few minutes. first of all, do you think these sanctions that were announced today are real or more symbolic? >> first, it's good to be with you. the president is using sanctions as a way to isolate eastern. the challenge is, he's made the circumstances between the united states and iran very tense. there is a real risk of miscalculation that could lead to an armed conflict, which is not in the united states national security interest. i want to make one thing clear. eastern is the bad actor. the irans of the country is supporting terrorism. it's a country that has i...

Regard for human life. they sow terrorism around the region, around the world. it is unacceptable that they would ever obtain a nuclear weapon as a threat to us or the rest of the world. >> would the united states sit down with the irans with no preconditions to talk about continuing diplomatic relations and ending the iranian nuclear weapons program? >> i think the president's made it very clear that he's more than prepared. >> with no preconditions? >> to have discussions with no preconditions with the iranians. but the one precondition is -- >> that's a precondition. >> they need to give up...

They have killed more than 600 soldiers in iraq. they state sponsor terrorism. there's a lot the united states should do with the international community to constrain them and try to resist their efforts in the region but in my mind the trump administration has exacerbated that tension and has created this current crisis that we're in and it's made it very hard for the european allies to figure out how they will go forward here. i think there's a limit to the europeans tolerance of iran. i don't know that david would know better whether this decision they will now start low grade enrichment wi...